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No Decision on New Twp. Committee Member

The Chatham Township Republican Committee will name one of the three candidates to fill the vacant seat at their next meeting.

The Committee came out of executive session Wednesday with no agreement on who should fill Kevin Tubbs' seat.

"After a discussion by the committee, none of the three candidates has a majority," Mayor Nicole Hagner said.

The duty of choosing one of the three candidates—Laura Ali Nonnenmacher, Joseph Contorno or Karen Swartz—to fill the vacancy left by Tubbs now falls on the Chatham Township Republican Committee, which will meet Monday evening.

Tom Basta, the chairman of the Republican Committee in the township, said the meeting will be closed to the public and the press. He is not sure if one candidate needs a simple majority or a larger majority to be selected.

"I'll have to check our bylaws," Basta said. "To be honest I wasn't expecting to have to answer these questions tonight."

Basta said he has to "look at the roster" to know how many people sit on the Republican Committee. Nonnenmacher and Contorno are sitting members, as are Hagner and Committee Members Robert Gallop and Bailey Brower Jr.

Committee Member Kathy Abbott said the four sitting members of the Township Committee "could not come to a decision as a group. It would have been easier if Kevin Sullivan had been up to fill this six-month term."

, by a majority of 20 votes, to be the Republican candidate for the full three-year term which begins in January.

said Sullivan did not apply to fill Tubbs' vacancy

Hagner said, "I guess we felt the three candidates they [the Republican Committee] presented all had good qualities and experiences." She said she expected the committee to have filled the role during Wednesday's special meeting, and did not anticipate Tubbs' seat would be vacant so long."

"It's two people against two people," Brower said.

Administrator Tom Ciccarone said such a longstanding vacancy on the committee has "never happened before, to my knowledge."

"For us it's nice to have five members," Hagner said, adding the committee has had to fill in for Tubbs' various liaison appointments during the vacancy. "It will be nice to have somebody [at the next meeting]."

The 30-day deadline to choose a new member expires Thursday. The Republican Committee will select the replacement from among the three candidates and will inform the township committee of their decision. That person will be sworn in in time for the township's next meeting on Thursday, June 14.

Tubbs, a former mayor and twice-elected committee member, on Friday, May 4. The resignation was effective Tuesday, May 8.

Tubbs' resignation was expected. The committee member from the township committee, as his family planned to move out of state. .

The , and selected Swartz, Nonnenmacher and Contorno as their nominees to fill Tubbs' seat. When , they interviewed the three candidates in executive session but declined to name one of them to fill the seat. Instead they .

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John Nonnenmacher June 08, 2012 at 03:27 PM
Jim, you have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps the strings on your puupet hand malfunctioned. Go back to watching cartoons. You are uninvolved and therefore, uninformed and ill-advised. What do you believe the phrase "conflict of interset" to mean? Its not a conflict of interest to pass legislation that an elected official will financially gain from, yet it would have been a conflict of interest to appoint Laura to the interim position? Are you aware that Laura was invited to throw her hat into the ring? Tell us about the process that you referred to. Do you know what that process is? I have been on the Chatham Township Republican Committee for more than a decade. As a result, I am fully familiar with the process.Based on the process, any one else would have been appointed to the interim position by virtue of the results of the previous election. But not Laura.Nicole and Bailey would have none of that. I am very suprised that Nicole has gone to such great lenghts to alienate Laura considering that Nicole does not have a political friend outside of Chatham ( assuming she has any left within Chatham). I can tell you this, I know 553 Republicans that will never cast a vote Nicole's way, not even for school crossing guard. Bob and Kathy's agenda is integrity,Who are you trying to kid by putting Nicole and Bailey in their same class and by implying that their alienation of Laura was not agenda oriented.
John Nonnenmacher June 08, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Jim, how dare you insult Laura. Do you have a job, do you work, volunteer, leave the house?.
Dave 2 June 08, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Reading all of this and following the market garden debate I have yet to hear Templin or his supporters say the same thing.. Templin - Two questions.... What’s the difference between the Market Garden Ordinance and Right to Farm Act? What was the purpose of the election last Tuesday? What were people voting on?
Jim Novick June 08, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Rich it's tough for me to follow and respond to each of your entries above and would like it if there is some way for us to respond directly to each other in one thread. I guess cut an paste if I miss something and I will stick with replying only to that entry. I do not think that I am hitting below the belt or harassing anyone as I am trying to give my honest opinion on the appointment issue because I do not agree with the arguments that the process has been handled inappropriately. People are entitled to their opinion, and if some feel disenfranchised or want to believe that this township is ruled as an oligarchy, I probably can not convince them otherwise. I do however take issue with some of your posts, as some genuinely interested people like Stacey may put too much value in your accusations without knowing the facts. I think you often go overboard, especially when you call Nicole's and others' employers to complain or bring up issues with people. As far as your other concerns I will try to address them all, starting from the top of page. You tried to put together a recall vote last year, and to the best of my knowledge you had no more than 12 supporters. You had some oust Hagner online poll and had about that many responses, several of which were from people that do not live here.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 03:54 PM
Dave/Danny Miller, Folks Danny has been getting his butt wamped over on another page http://chatham.patch.com/articles/green-villagers-sue-twp-over-market-garden-ordinance bragging about the ethical integrity of Nicole and Bailey and now he has decided to grace us with his presence. To school you again, the Right to Farm is the basis for the Market Garden Ordinance minus a few things (more detail here www.savegreenvillage.com). In regards to what we were voting for this week...based on all the Sullivan signs on our want-to-be farmers yards, it was to pay Sullivan back for his vote on the Planning Board to say that the Commercial Farm Ordinance was "not not consistent" with the Master Plan. Actually, they said, "not inconsistent", but anyone that keeps up with their English skills knows that is the same as "not not consistent". Which brings us all back to the same topic. Why all the sleazy underhanded stuff just to supposely to grow some veggies? Oh, yeah. It is all part of the culture of corruption being trumpeted by Jim and Danny for their lady.
Biff June 08, 2012 at 04:00 PM
Mr. Novick, It's great to see you standing up for Nicole, defending her from a growing tsunami of anger/resentment towards her/Bailey. The single best thing that could happen for Nicole now is for this mushrooming negativity to end. Each day draws many more people into this battle, the vast majority siding with Laura and her supporters. Your debating a very popular/respected mother/community volunteer like Mrs. Ewald sure isn’t going to help Nicole in this towm. Truly, the only way for Nicole to stop further image deterioration and help her future ambitions, especially among women, it to squelch this now, and that will only happen if Laura gets voted in, Monday. Nicole would look great, and regain some respect if she votes for Laura on Monday. Hitching her wagon to Bailey was beneficial in the past, but now its a noose. Bailey isn't in the long-term future of this town, and his image has really sunk. It’s time for Nicole to cut ties, like when she was a Democrat. You’re a good Fiancé, help Nicole to climb back up the latter. If you think Nicole’s image is suffering now, just wait to see what happens during the days, weeks, months ahead if Laura isn’t voted in on Monday.
Jim Novick June 08, 2012 at 04:08 PM
How am I being mean? How is it bad business sense for me to have the opinion that you should not appoint a person to the position that they are running for? If Kevin had put his name in for the appointment, and the committee agreed to install him in the position before the election, would you not have argued that this gave him some sort of advantage in running for election? The committee had a duty to fill the vacancy at the earliest available time which was to occur b4 the election. Maybe they both should have put their names in, and the committee should have agreed to wait to fill it with the winner, even though I believe the requirement is for the repub committee to select 3 candidates to fill the position as soon as possible.
John Nonnenmacher June 08, 2012 at 04:12 PM
Jim, how long do you think it would take me to get the necessary signatures to have Nicole removed from office?
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 04:13 PM
Jim, I am very curious about your line about calling "Nicole's employer". Please explain that.
Jim Novick June 08, 2012 at 04:54 PM
Easy there big fella, if I insulted Laura please point out where as it was absolutely not my intent. No, I ashamedly do not have a job right now, unless you consider doing a little trading from home a job. To respond to Templin's assertion that I am a real estate developer, my only experience with that was in acting as gc in building my house... And I think I made an investment in real estate limited partnership back in the 90s. Fwiw I was a local in the commodity options pits on what used to be the Nybot, now ICE, and traded primarily options on coffee futures. I can send you resume if you or anyone sees a fit for me, but I do have a diverse set of interests. I do not volunteer, but I should. I did adopt my second not so adoptable dog so I feel I've done a little good so far in my life. I leave the house occasionally, but I guess that question is relative. In fact have to run right now, but my mom is here, so please nothing rash in my absence.
Biff June 08, 2012 at 05:09 PM
AMAZING!!!!!! I just figured it out . . . Templin you’re Brilliant!!!!!!!! The two people most responsible for getting Mr. Templin elected come November. . . Bailey Brower and Nicole Hagner! Yup, that is an indisputable fact! Bailey and Nicole have successfully driven a divide right down the center of the Township GOP, which the brilliant Mr. Templin will cruise through to victory. Mr. Templin, you are so, so shrewd!! I bet you knew all along that the Achilles heel of the mighty Bailey Brower was personal ego. Your ante Bailey/Nicole rhetoric k is all a facade!!! You probably also think the Township GOP are too stupid (we’ll see come Monday) to see your stroke of genius, and by selecting someone other than Laura on Monday will gift you the election come November. Man Templin, you sure are one savvy chess player!! At a minimum, you should send gift baskets to Bailey, Nicole and the rest of the GOP committee members that vote for someone other than Laura Monday night.
John Nonnenmacher June 08, 2012 at 05:30 PM
That's a great possibility if Laura gets 553 write in votes.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 05:38 PM
Biff, Thank you but that isn't my angle at all. I am just protecting my Village from its Idiot. Unfortunately, that Idiot is Brower's thug. Brower listened to that Village Idiot and Brower than went on the warpath after me and my neighbors. The only problem is I don't take well to bullies and I don't like seeing my tax dollars used to harass me and my neighbors. I had previously gone through life thinking Chatham was this wonderful place. I still do, but now I see a very corrupt local government which needs a little change. My goal is to run for one term only, proove that the Dems have a shot in this town, and get 2 - 3 more of them elected to reflect the demographics of the town. Democracy works best when we have choice and some accountability in the system. In regards to Laura, I think she deserves the job more than me, but that isn't in the cards. In the meantime, somebody needs to step up and do something. Our current is out of control and they aren't going to stop until someone says "no". If you want to know my politics, I call myself a centrist. I use to be a full blown Republican, but I have got to admit, some of our locals are so corrupt that I could no longer in good conscience play on that team. I guess that officially makes me a Blue Dog Dem. If elected, I promise to make our government accountable and bring to light the backroom dealings that are hurting this town. I promise people will be treated fairly and honestly.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 05:47 PM
I think this has been a very exhausting conversation with more things said than people wanted. So, in the spirit of change, how about my latest Brower joke? Did you hear that after leaving office, he is going to start remaking movies (as he feels they should have been made)? Here is a list, see if you can guess the original movie. Twins: the Bailey and Nicole Story On Noe Pond Deliverance (the unrated version) Bedtime for Brower Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp with Adolf & Eva Mr. Brower Goes to Washington The Man with the Savage Golden Gun The Toxic Avenger: My Story of Rolling Hills Landfill All the Committeeman’s Men Flaming Saddles – The Short Story about a Black Sheriff!
TCG June 08, 2012 at 05:59 PM
I'm shocked...shocked to find personal insults, inuendo and false accusations in local politics! Who knew? And for all these years I thought local politicians were in it for the town, not themselves. Issues? What issues? It's all about the cult of personality with not a single mention in any of the pre or post election blather about what any of these people would do to improve the town...and absolutely nothing about HOW they would do it. Alterier motives, vendettas and personal destruction have become sport in this town. Are we really dragging girlfriends and relatives into this drivel? Where are the IDEAS, the VISION and the KNOW HOW to truly change the way we do things? So far it's all hat and no cattle. 553 votes in a town of over 10,000. 'Nuff said.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Since some of those are a little on the edge, it is probably best that I provide this background. This Link will take you to a Landmark Civil Rights case lost by Bailey Brower himself. http://nj.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.19660404_0040285.NJ.htm/qx
Biff June 08, 2012 at 06:06 PM
Ho, ho, Templin keep trying to convince us. I am still laughing about how you have played Bailey and Nicole like ignorant pawns, getting them to do all of your bidding and driving votes to your election by the hundreds (and Republicans votes at that!!!!!) . . . Brilliant Sir, simply brilliant! Man, if I were Kevin Sullivan I would be apoplectic and would call Bailey and Nicole immediately, saying “What the heck are you doing?!! You’re killing my chances!! Don’t you see that Templin in playing you like a cheap fiddle?!! Come on Bailey, you went to Princeton for cryin out loud!!” - That’s what I’d say if I were Kevin Sullivan.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 06:14 PM
Biff, LOL. That is hilarious. But please take me at my word. Besides, it is virtually statistically impossible to get elected in this town as a Democrat. We have 1500 votes to 3000 Republican votes. The only thing that will get me elected is if people believe that we need change and if I am sincere enough to bring it. Here's to hoping that there are just enough independent voters that could possibly make up the difference.
Biff June 08, 2012 at 07:09 PM
With the way Bailey and Nicole are acting, and as more and more residents are hearing the facts and finally taking notice . . . your chances of getting elected are getting better, and better by the moment, and I am dead serious!! Compliments of Bailry and Nicole, the Republican party in our town has now divided into two camps, or virtually equal size and strength. My guess is that the vast majority of Independents and Dems are much more closely alligned with the Kathy Abbot/Bob G. camp, so if you run against one of Bailey's Boys, and if Laura doesn't run as a write-in candidate, you might well be the favorite to win the election. Quick questions, when you referred to "Bailey's thug" is that Tom Ciccarone? Also, who is that a picture of, the guy who stole one of your anti farm ord. signs?
Laura Silvius (Editor) June 08, 2012 at 07:29 PM
Hi everyone, Please remember the comments are not a forum for personal attacks, defamatory or harassing material, or anything that is "inaccurate, false or misleading in any way" (taken from our Terms of Service, which you can read here: http://chatham.patch.com/terms). Please remember to keep it clean, don't try to mislead the readers and treat others as you would like to be treated. Sincerely, Laura Silvius
SR June 08, 2012 at 07:33 PM
As one of only about 13 Democrats to vote in the primary (and one who wrote Laura in as a candidate in a symbolic) I needed to watch this train wreck from the side. However, I did want to use it as an opportunity to suggest that maybe it is time to revive the Democratic party in the Township and run some strong candidates who will upset the status quo.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Biff, You have a good guess on the identity of the thug and Ciccarone certainly acts the part, but no. In regards to the identity of the Village Idiot and the guy stealing the sign, I am not going to say. I play tough, but I am not here to ruin anyone's life. Unfortunately, some of these fools seem to be on that path on their own. So far I have been subject to death threats, they have contacted my employer with the goal of getting me fired, our Fire Fighters and Republican activities like to drive in front of my house yelling threats, Bailey even went as far as to harass me at a Memorial Service holding my father's command cap and casket flag, and the list goes on. I belive in the golden rule. That being said, people also showcase how they want to be treated. The antics going around are being played under Bailey's and Nicole's rules. Despite that escalation, I am not out to ruin anyone. I just might deflate their egos a bit though.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 07:49 PM
SR, There was a few more than 13. I got 149 votes. However, you are right, we need people. Good people. I challenge you to join up, run for office, whatever. I might not be the poster child Democrat, but I seem to make the Chatham Republicans nervous.
Richard E. Templin June 08, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Biff, I am sorry, but I failed to respond to your first point. I hope Laura runs as a write in. Sure, it might hurt my chances, but I think the voters need more choice than who Bailey annoints. The problem in this town is that we have a lack of Democracy. To get that we need people like Laura to stand up. We need more Democrats to join up. We need to make sure they feel safe and aren't harassed for doing what is right. I am actually a pretty mild mannered guy, but if these clowns insist on throwing punches at me than it means somebody else can kick in the ass while I got their attention.
Biff June 08, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Laura, thank you for your fine reporting of Township events, on the Patch. As you can see, your stories are a great facilitator of open discussion, involving many people. This is real-time information getting communicated and discussed. We are fortunate to be in a free society where this is permitted. Cheers to you and The “Patch,” keep up the great work!!
Jim Novick June 09, 2012 at 01:24 AM
Oh jeez I don't know let me guess, three days... No wait, some real aggressive answer like, with one phone call! I don't know, I give up. Better question, why? And WOW btw.
Biff June 09, 2012 at 03:19 AM
. . . agree with you completely
John Nonnenmacher June 09, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Perhaps there will be.
ROUTE124 June 10, 2012 at 01:49 AM
So after all the excitement ... when and how will the seat be filled???
Laura Silvius (Editor) June 10, 2012 at 02:15 AM
Hi Route124, The Chatham Township Republican Committee will choose one of their three candidates—Laura Ali Nonnenmacher, Joseph Contorno or Karen Swartz—to fill the seat at their meeting Monday.

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