What are Chatham's Most Dangerous Intersections?
Let us know in the comments below.
With recent discussions about traffic safety and Safe Routes to School, we at Chatham Patch started to wonder: What are the most dangerous intersections in Chatham Borough and Chatham Township?
Sarah Fechner of the Safe Routes to School Committee recently told the Chatham Township Committee that between Thanksgiving 2009 and 2011, within .75 miles of all schools Chatham Township, "there were 61 [car] accidents. And that's just within school commute time," Fechner said.
In Chatham Borough, accidents along Main Street are a common occurrence, but there are also collisions with railroad overpasses or on Fairmount Avenue between Firehouse Plaza and Red Road.
What makes these, or other Chatham intersections, dangerous? Do people ignore signs or speed limits at this intersection? Do drivers go around cars and risk hitting pedestrians or cyclists?
Let us know what intersections you deem to be the least safe in the area by posting a comment below. We'll soon post a recap of your responses, and a map of accidents in the township and borough.
R. Swanson
2:16 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Hillside and Main Street is a nightmare. A left turn light from both North Hillside and Hillside onto Main Street has been sorely needed there for years because of the jagged path Hillside takes. That intersection is always a serious accident waiting to happen.
Cheryl Vivona
2:35 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
agree! It seems to be confusing for all as to who can turn first.
Yelowhownd
2:58 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Kings and Lafayette. People speed down Kings, overshoot the crosswalk and stop sign, and block the intersection while trying to make a left onto Lafayette
Phil McCracken
3:45 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
The most ridiculous and dangerous intersection is Main St. and N. Passaic Ave. The left turn arrow last all of 3 seconds while people are crossing the street and no cars can get through. Then the light stays green for all of anothe r20 seconds and 2-3 cars make it through each light. That is why at high traffic times the cars are 30-40 deep on N. Passaic because noone has changed the light sequence. Some engineer needs to allow the left turn arrow to stay lit for at least 30 seconds and the light itself needs to remain green for at least 30 seconds beyond that. Or install some road sensors so the lights can police themselves. PLEASE DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!
llbxy
4:02 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
This has been especially bad lately with the JFK bridge detour sending extra cars onto North Passaic!
emjnj
3:58 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Washington Ave & Chatham St. Multiple accidents there each year and some during school drop-off resulting in totaled cars in yards as well as ambulances needed to cart off injured passengers. People speed up and down Washington as well as some think the intersection is a 4-way stop; it isn't. Dangerous with 2 schools located within one block.
llbxy
4:00 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Agree with the comments above. Also many drivers routinely ignore stop and yield signs, and maybe one out of every ten cars obeys the law to stop for a pedestrian who has the right of way in the crosswalk. This is especially dangerous at the crosswalks that don't have traffic lights, like near the train station.
Basically, everyone's distracted, impatient, and wants to go first.
Sir
4:23 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Maybe the police should focus on this as opposed to ticketing cars of homeowners that park on the street overnight.
Rich
4:25 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
The bridge over Loantaka Creek on Green Village Road is a death trap. Green Village Road is a recreation corridor trafficked by bikers, horse riders, and hikers from the adjacent parks. They have to share the narrow road with vehicles and an increasing amount of commercial traffic.
Kelly D
7:37 pm on Tuesday, July 10, 2012
Hands down trying to make a left onto Fairmount (heading towards Maun Street) from Southern Boulevard. There's no turning arrow and oncoming traffic coming up Southern Boulevard from snake hill cannot be seen. There are CONSTANT ACCIDENTS. I pray everytime I make that turn that there's noone coming up that hill Southern.
william duffy
8:55 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I agree. That intersection is a mess, especially when cars come up snake hill to turn left on Fairmount and there are cars waiting to turn left from Southern Blvd. on to Fairmount heading toward Main St.
craig ingraham
6:59 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Left turns from Chatham St. onto Fairmount during the school year are always an adventure. The problem is the incredible speed of motorists zooming up and down Fairmount !! School flashing lights are non existent and police presence is minimal. Slow these cars down to 25mph !!
Melissa Sullivan
7:17 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
The intersection of Fairmount Avenue and River Road (the other side is Central Avenue in New Providence). I have two new drivers and often people will indicate for them to go when a car is coming around the corner unseen. At rush hours it is a long wait.
Walter Smith
7:56 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Lafayette and Southern Blvd. A "T" intersection, limited visibility, school crossing, and 35mph speed limit on Southern Blvd, a major commuter route.
John D
8:40 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Its not just the intersections, but certain streets. River Road from the 400's until it intersects with Fairmount on the other side should be called "River Road Raceway". I have a radar gun and regularly clock drivers at 50 to 55 MPH and the speed limit is 35 MPH. There are no shoulders and we have runners and cyclists on that stretch all the time. There are wider streets in the borough like Hillside Avenue that can fit 4 cars across and have sidewalks on both sides and the speed limit is 25 MPH. I don't get it. Our mailman had his mirror clipped at high speed because the driver would not slow down to go around his vehicle, but kept speeding and swerved. I see it all the time. Tail gating, passing over the double yellow line, speeding, etc. I just nearly avoided a head on collision 3 weeks ago with another driver who was speeding as they passed the fire house and were traveling 3 feet over the double yellow line and then swerved back over only 10' short of impact. Something needs to be done before someone gets killed on this stretch of River Road. I openly invite anyone who is concerned to sit for just 20 minutes to see the madness. I'm at 550 River Road.
Brian Rutter
2:02 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Why, in heaven's name, do you need a radar gun, and is it even legal for you to use one? Yes, there are drivers who speed, and even more who have no clue what they are about. How is your use of a radar gun going to change that?
John D
12:24 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Brian, Yes it is completely legal for a civilian to use a radar gun. The results will not stand up in court as evidence, but they can be used to track and trend the excess speed traveled. I purchased a radar gun so I could provide the township with specific statistics on the excess speed traveled in front of my home. You should come by sometime and try exiting any of the driveways in my area and see how close you come to being T-Boned. If drivers do 35MPH, there is no issue, but they don't. they speed in excess of 50 or 55MPH.My neighbors all agree and they wish more could be done. We have a fine police department, but they can't be everywhere. Just this morning, a motorist was traveling on Passaic Street from New Providence and could not wait to make a legal left onto River Road. The female driver, in a silver Jeep Cherokee, turned onto the entry way from River Road to Passaic Street in the lane of oncoming vehicles and then eventually moved over into the right lane of River Road. It is absolutely insane. I think I will install cameras next and publish the videos in high definition on youtube so the world can get a close look at the yahoos who drive so recklessly. What's the worst that could happen? Drivers will slow down and residents will be safer.
Brian Rutter
1:06 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Okay, John, I stand corrected. It sounds like your use of the radar is a good way of gathering hard data, rather than mere impressions, as a basis for public policy decisions. Good job.
I do agree that there seems to be a feeling among many motorists that "I have the right of way no matter what", which is part of what creates many of our traffic problems. I also think that many of our roads have not kept up with the surge in population over the past 40 or 50 years. The roads are often too narrow, with too many blind spots, and no where to go when there is a problem.
Ann Frommer
8:50 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Lafayette & King's Road. Though there is a stop sign, people fail to heed it. I was T-boned there several years ago.
kls
9:37 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Agreed with Main Street and North Passaic. North Passaic and Weston is also a dangerous intersection especially when children are crossing going to and from school. Cars routinely ignore the crossing guard. I witnessed 3 car accidents this past school year alone, luckily no pedestrians were injured. Speeding on North Passaic is a huge issue. Drivers have no regard for pedestrians or homeowners. I was recently crossing the street with my three young children when a car came speeding up and rather than slow down to let me cross, the driver drove around us, up over the curb, and across a homeowners lawn!
Chatsum
10:57 am on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
I agree with all of the above,but I find that I have a bigger problem with people not trimming back bushes at alot of intersections. I find myself in the middle of the street just to see if I can go, more so in the Township.
Dave 2
2:35 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Here we go again with the hack web site. What does a stockade fence have to due with bikers and pedestrians? I have seen the location of this fence and it appears to be in a straight line, does not create a bind spot and is located on a downhill slope away from the edge of the road surface. Bikers and pedestrians would not be able to utilize this side of the road (due to the lack of a shoulder) even if the fence was not there. Do us all a favor and keep the argument you are having with your neighbors (which is why the fence was put up, because of you!) off of posts that have nothing to do with the fact that you didn’t get what you wanted. The people posting on this topic have legitimate concerns and don’t need to have them over shadowed by your lies and accusations about the Township and the Market Garden Ordinance. (Sorry everyone, I just had to point this out!)
Dave 2
10:01 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Ok genius, tell me how the fence is an obstruction if you are coming west on Green Village Rd, over the bridge. The fence isn't even close to the bridge and it is located on the left side of the road. Not to mention if the road bends at all it is to the right. Once again you are a lier...your site "savegreenvillage.com" was not to inform the public of the history of Green Village. It was developed in protest of farming and your neighbors. And to think you want to be on the Township Committee...you do know you will have to start telling the truth and stop making wildly false accusations.
Dave 2
2:05 pm on Thursday, July 12, 2012
Again you are a liar. Your hack site has no other content. The fence was not removed because of the safety of bikers or pedestrians but because of a County set back. By the looks of your site and the videos/pictures posted of their property, I can see why they would want a privacy fence. The video you post of the biker shows nothing. If anything they would be obstructed by the split rail fence rather then the stockade fence. If you are going to keep up with this “sour grapes”, then please make your comments elsewhere.
Brian Rutter
2:28 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
Before I comment on unsafe intersections/roads, let me take Ms. Fechner to task for improperly using accident statistics to create an air of hysteria (at least in so far as her remarks were quoted in this article). She notes 61 accidents within .75 miles of a school during school commuting hours over a 2 year period. Now, the only reason for using a 2 year period rather than a 1 year period or a yearly average is to generate a larger number. So in fact, we are averaging 30 accidents per year, or 2-1/2 per month. (While the article does not say, I assume that she did not deduct accidents that happened when school is not in session, such as in the summer.) Fewer than 3 accidents a month is a much less scary figure than 61 accidents.
The article implies that these accidents include incidents of trucks striking overpasses. The likelihood of this type of accident causing injury to a child walking to or from school seems to me to be quite small. We are given no information on the types of accidents which typically occur. How many involve an automobile and a pedestrian or bicyclist? This type of accident poses the real danger to schoolchildren. The real questions are how many accidents in these areas involve pedestrians or cyclists? How many near misses? How many accidents had the potential to injure children walking to school, and what were the causes of these accidents. Before we just "Do Something", let's make sure that what we do will really address the problem.
sarah mawson
1:56 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
Thank you, Mr. Rutter for the opportunity to explain how I obtained my accident statistics.The Safe Routes to School Committee is working with the N.J. Dept. of Transportation (NJDOT) to assess & create safer ways for our children to walk and bike to school. NJDOT is also helping Chatham apply for a grant to hopefully receive outside funds to make this happen. As part of the grant, we are required to submit "crash data" within our three schools' .75 mile radii during active commute time. Therefore, in Nov. of '11, I researched pertinent accident data during the last two school years (2009-2010 and 2010-2011) up to that present time. I will be presenting the Township Committee with accident data for this third school year now that it is over. I appreciate the suggestion to break down the data by school year and will do so. the breakdown for each of the two completed schools years is 27 accidents for '09-10 and 28 for '10-'11 school year (there were 6 accidents for the incomplete 3rd year). Each school year contains 180 days. As I reported, these accidents occurred during 15% and 15.6% of the morning and afternoon active school commute time periods within the prescribed radii for those two school years, respectively. You broke down my data by month: There are an average of 21.4 weekdays per month in a 10 month school year, incl. holidays.
sarah mawson
2:03 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
This conservatively means that there were 2.7 and 2.8 accident per month, or more than one every other week, while children were walking or biking to school at the same time in the same radius. I only used those weekdays in which school was in session, not counting school holidays and summer break nor days off due to inclement weather during school commuting times of 7:15-8:55 AM and 2:05-3:25 PM (11:45-12:55PM for half days)within the .75 radii of the 3 schools. I did not include accidents occurring during the additional times when children are going to or from school: midday kindergarten drop off/pick up, after school at a later time from Work-Family, sporting activities, enrichment programs, high schoolers leaving at 1:40 due to study hall, or other times of the day when seniors are coming and going at open campus. Keep in mind that there are many additional accidents in this radius each month at different time periods outside these school commuting times in which our citizens walk and bike, I omitted those. None of the accidents I reported include a truck striking an overpass, that overpass if outside of the .75 mile radius of my research. Lastly, while I have personal knowledge of a biking child being struck by a car in just 1 of these accidents, to my knowledge, the rest of the accidents did not injure other peds. or cyclists, although I and other walkers have gotten out of the way just in time in some cases. Accident reports do not tell us how many "almost"
sarah mawson
2:05 pm on Friday, July 13, 2012
hit a ped. nor the causes of those accidents. We are also researching exactly where children are having to walk or bike in the street with autos due to lack of alternative off-road throughways. I agree we need to use any funds we receive carefully to target key high priority areas for increased walker safety, starting with our children's need to travel to school. This accident data is 1 part of an overall assessment which will help us objectively improve in this important endeavor with support from NJDOT, citizens, and local leaders.
lisa
3:17 pm on Wednesday, July 11, 2012
The intersection at Fairmount and Southern is very dangerous. Because Fairmount Ave does not go straight through the intersection, making a left in either direction is dangerous, even more so when making a left towards Main Street because Southern Blvd drivers cannot see oncoming traffic coming up The hill from River Rd. A left hand arrow would alleviate most of the problem.