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Poll: Will Chatham Follow Princeton's Example and Merge?

The borough's mayor-elect is against the idea, while the Chatham Township Committee is in favor.

 

On Tuesday, Chatham residents had only one municipal question to consider: whether or not to approve sports betting in New Jersey. Residents in Princeton Township and Princeton Borough had another issue to vote on that Chatham residents can relate to: whether or not to merge the two towns into one.

The measure passed by a 3-to-2 margin and will go into effect on 2013, opening the door for other bordering towns (or "doughnut towns," as The Star Ledger calls towns where one is completely surrounded by another) to likewise consider a merger.

In Chatham Borough, this issue was discussed — but hardly debated — in the League of Women Voters' Candidates Forum last month. The four candidates present all supported keeping the borough independent from other districts, saying they had spoken with very few, if any, residents who favored the notion. In the debate, then-Mayor Nelson Vaughan said the borough is "surrounded by towns that are a lot larger than us, and any merger between us would mean that we are a junior partner."

Readers also commented on Mayor-Elect Bruce Harris' candidate video and on a political column on local taxes, both also published in October.

When the Chatham Township Committee met Thursday night, Committee Member Bailey Brower, Jr. congratulated the Princetons on the merger vote and said it set a mandate for the Chathams. Other committee members, as well as members of the public, spoke up in favor of merging the towns, but said they have not felt the same enthusiasm from the borough. In the words of Committee Member Kevin Tubbs, "it takes two to tango."

The two towns share a recreation department and a library and school system. They also share a municipal court, along with Madison and Harding. Both have their own governing committees (the borough has six voting council members and one mayor who has a tie-breaking vote, and the township has five voting committee members with a mayor chosen by the committee), their own administrators, police departments, public works departments, garbage and recycling collection contracts and water and sewer systems.

What do you think? Vote in the poll below, and give us your comments.

  • Should Chatham Township and Chatham Borough merge into one town?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Yes, we already share lots of services and it makes sense to make them into one town.
        134 (62%)
    • No, the towns have different identies and the technicalities would be too much to combine neatly.
        80 (37%)
    Total votes: 214
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: Chatham Borough, Chatham Township, and Merging Towns
What do you think are the benefits and liabilities to merging Chatham Borough and Chatham Township? Tell us in the comments.

Captain Jack

7:10 pm on Thursday, November 10, 2011

It's a no brainer, let's get it done Harris, Lonergan, Hagner etc etc. Get some guts.

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Peter

8:05 pm on Thursday, November 10, 2011

Sounds like a plan. Let's get it done.

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Sir

8:37 am on Friday, November 11, 2011

Only do it if it lowers our taxes.

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MayorGangemi

8:48 am on Friday, November 11, 2011

At one time, I felt the marginal savings would justify a full merger. But, over time, I have observed that most of those savings in personnel and other duplicated services would take a long time to realize, if ever. These towns have a history of protecting public workers (see two Rec Directors for instance) and its not reasonable to expect that a merger would do much more than create some small incremental savings. But I am more concerned as a Township resident with the decline of downtown Chatham Boro over the years (see current vacancy rates), the lack of parking and the loss of competitiveness to Summit and now New Providence. Madison is a special case as a college town. Summit and NP planned their way out of downtown delcine. Frankly, I don't want to pay for the development and implementation of an economic plan to deal with the traffic and parking issues in the Boro - I get what I need from Madison, Summit and New Providence. Isn't it enough that we already pay the majority of the freight for our school system - why take on more to compensate for Chatham Boro's mistakes?

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Chathammom

10:29 am on Friday, November 11, 2011

Without any hard data on the numbers being provided by the politicians of either town, it is hard to weigh in on this subject. However, it seems to me that we do not have to take an all or nothing approach as Princeton did. How about continuing with the merging of services on a "as needed" basis? The merging of the school districts and the recreation departments seem to be successful. The library is shared (although it has outgrown its available parking and the expansion of the municipal pool over there really concerns me as a township library user-- the township committee let that one get by them). Perhaps its time to single out public works or police and take a look at the pros or cons of merging one of those services.
How about recycling, garbage or cable television? Those are all privately paid for, but certainly better deals could be negotiated with combined purchasing power.

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Bernie

11:19 am on Friday, November 11, 2011

The only people who are in favor of a merger are those that just moved here. They have no idea what the identity of the town is. As someone who grew up here and has lived in the Boro for most of my 43 years I can tell you they are separate and unique towns. One of the biggest mistakes was merging the schools! And I'm not just talking about from a rivalry standpoint. How many additions have they put on every school in town? What the people in charge back in 1988 didn't factor in, was the town would evolve again. My street used to be all older people whose kids had long since grown up and moved away. Now I'm one of the oldest people on my street. Every house has 2, 3 or 4 kids in it! Someone told me that there sons (age 13) class has 350+ students?!? When I graduated from the Boro I was one of 126. There would have been some lean years in the 90's with small classes, but it would have come around. Think of all the money that could have been saved by not building all the additions which would have been unnecessary. Combining services like police, fire, and public works may make sense. If the towns merged the Township people would be eligible to park at the train. What a nightmare that would be to figure out, we can't even accommodate all the Boro residents. Overall, there should be instances where we can help each other save money with services, but in the end the two entities should remain separate.

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John

1:02 pm on Friday, November 11, 2011

You have a better chance of merging Mars with Jupiter than getting these towns together. Anyone who thinks otherwise either just moved here or has their head in the sand. Other than sharing a name and a couple of schools they couldn't be more different. Merging the Boro with Madison would make more sense and that will never happen either!

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Captain Jack

1:27 pm on Friday, November 11, 2011

Oh yes the identities are so striking and unique. The downtown is dumpy and we get no services in the Township. Perish the thought.

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Frank

6:48 am on Saturday, November 12, 2011

History of New Jersey 101: Many of the boroughs of NJ were formed around 1900 for a very good reason - mainly because the larger township. Bernardsville and Somerville, for instance, were formed becuase the larger townships- at the time Bernards Township (Basking Ridge zip code) and Bridgewater were not providing adequate police, water, sewers, etc.
Merging towns is a terrible idea- there is mininal savings and, in this legislative environment, can pretty much never again be "un-merged." In the case today, the suburban townships would be crazy to merge with the likes of someplace like Chatham Borough, which is the early stages of urban decay. It has rat infestation problem, a crime problem and pedestrians being run over left and right. That disgustin borough needs more police, health resources (rodent management) and other welfare services. Of course the local borough politiicans would like to merge with Chatham Township - so would Newark or East Orange if Chathm Township was next to them.

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Scott

9:16 am on Saturday, November 12, 2011

I've lived in Chatham for 20 years and thanks to these comments, I just learned that the Boro and Township have completely different and unique environments. I would have never known.....

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KenD

9:20 am on Saturday, November 12, 2011

@ Scott, I didn't know that either. Maybe we should put checkpoints at the borders.

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MayorGangemi

11:00 am on Saturday, November 12, 2011

Scott and Ken, These small-towners are missing the point. I recoommend, though, since you seem to view yourselves as serious people to take a close look at the Chatham budgets and find the potential savings. Then take a look at the personnel decisions involved in reducing head-count. And look again at the travesty of having TWO Rec directors and ask yourself what politician is going to face the police forces, the "first responders", and tell them we are cutting back on personnel. You can reduce through attrition but that will take a lot of time and money. And you underestimate the cost of taking on Chatham Boro. Can anyone tell me the ongoing liability for replacing the lead drinking water pipes in Chatham Boro?

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KenD

9:33 am on Sunday, November 13, 2011

MayorG, I was simply making a joke. As a user of the schools, rec dept and library I do feel that we are one community. I guess that was my point. As to whether there should be a merger. Frankly, I don't know. I have not done the things you recommend above. On the surface it seems to make sense but without a full analysis as you suggest one cannot make a decision. Perhaps a joint committee with some authority to conduct a feasibility study (ie, spend limited money) would make sense. I agree, it has to add up to a lot more than going to one rec director. Just the water and sewer issues alone could prove overly problematic.

Jane H

7:06 am on Sunday, November 13, 2011

More Chatham history. Chatham Boro , township Madison, Florham Park were all part of Chatham Twp until the early 1900's. The Boro and Twp parted company over taxes and water issues. The Twp thought it was getting the short end of the stick.Does it make sense to merge? Probably. Will it happen? Probably not. There are some who are still complaining about the school merger.

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Scott

10:02 am on Sunday, November 13, 2011

Mayor G and Ken - I was being sarcastic, sorry. I've always identified myself as a resident of Chatham never adding the distinction of Township or Boro.
If the poll response to the idea of merging the Township and Boro is any indication of the sentiment among Township and Boro residents, the councils should conduct a feasibility study but it won't happen until they are pushed to do so.

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Kiko Hernandez-Monoli

10:43 am on Sunday, November 13, 2011

It would be, because the cross line between towns it so STUPID! You could live 3/4 in the Borough and 1/4 in the Township! So lame! But anyway, the Township needs sidewalks unlike the Borough, the Borough is WAY better.

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Frank

6:17 am on Monday, November 14, 2011

Both towns need sidewalks, esecially on Fairmont Ave and both town committee are obivious to this and other needs. Both municipal gov'ts should fix the many problems that will are beggining to make both communities less desirable to the under 35 population and for starters those problems include a lack of sidewalks, lack of SAFE bike paths, lack of dog parks, and just a general lack of a community- a problem which would start to get better with these social and safety amenities- that exist in most communities outside of our very backwards part of New Jersey.

Joe

10:26 am on Thursday, November 17, 2011

No use discussing without the data to evaluate the cost savings. My understanding from the last go-round is that the cost-savings are small (and since there are usually unforeseen costs, it probably means the towns would lose money by merging).

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