see what happens when the libs screw with something that works!?!

Um, really, Michael? Who are the 'libs' here? Ready Pac Foods, Inc.(Missa Bay Limited Liability Corp.)? Ronald McDonald? The Burger King? Seems to me that 'free market' corner-cutters are trying to poison us here, and Big Government (U.S. FDA) has to clean up their mess to protect us unwitting consumers. Why didn't Ronald and the King step up and be responsible on their own initiative?

I believe Michael is referring to Michelle Obama's anti-Happy-Meal edict *mandating* those apple slices. And he's using the same logic the Obama campaign used to indict Mitt Romney for the death of Joe Soptic's wife.

Chis, I will bet you that 70 percent of Democrats don't even know who Saul Alinsky was and wouldn't have even heard the name if you idiot no nothings didn't bring him up. In fact he was a labor organizer and social activist who worked to bring fairness and bettter conditions to working people. Obviously that would go against your talk radio, Faux News mentality. You must in fairness also talk about Ryans greatest influence comming from the Pro-Choice, anti-family, Russian atheist, Ayn Rand who Ryan himself claimed to be his guiding light. I don't know if Obama has made his staff read Rules for Radicals, I suspect he hasn't but it has been reported that until Ryan very recently found out who Ayn Rand really was he made his staff read her for motivation. It is all part of your lying Party.

Have you ever read Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged or The Virtue of Selfishness, Dan? I think if you opened your mind and read what Ayn Rand's philosophy was, you wouldn't make these innane remarks. The government cannot fix all our problems. Self reliance, self respect, ingenuity and self confidence can. Human nature is motivated by selfishness -- and that's not a bad thing. People give to charity, why? Because they want to help people but also because it makes them feel good. People want to work hard and prosper - why? Because they want to pass good things onto their family, they want to be recognized for their hard work....all selfish but not bad things. That's the crux of what Ayn Rand is all about. The government steps in and squashes self-relilance, ingenuity and innovation. When has the governement EVER done something better than the private sector? We need government don't get me wrong -- but govt should be something in the background of our lives - not telling us how much & what to eat, where to live, where to send our kids to school, what to set our thermostat at, how much money we can & can't earn! Why would you want to give so much control to the government?? Could it be because you can't make it on your own? Are you jealous of people who achieve (those evil hated 'RICH') This debate is on -- and November 6th can't come quickly enough.

Ditto Bellair -- I guess the Carter years proved nothing as did the prosperity of Ronald Regean. So what she went on govt. assistance. I went on unemployment for four months once. No one said there should be NO government assistance -- you'd think we live in the 1920s and there were no social programs in place! There is plenty of government assistance available. The debate is, do you want the govt. growing to such a size that it takes over every aspect of your life? Total federal government debt is almost at 16 trillion dollars -- the CBO is now saying the federal debt is going to exceed 70 percent of GDP by the end of this year! I just don't get what your point is? What's been proven wrong besides liberal, big government spending doesn't work! A recession hasn't lasted this long since the Great Depression because the policies in place right now have created an unfriendly business climate -- no one is hiring! They can't get loans to keep their biz aflloat because of increased regulations, they are worried about increased taxes hence no hiring- are we going to do THIS all over again? Growth should be at 6%, not 2% -- we have had recessions many times before and rebounded at a much faster rate. Maybe I'm talking over your head -- read slowly, try to digest. This debate is too important. I really hope people who automatically refuse to see what is going on in this country try to expand their thought process -- don't just be lead by your emotions.

Goes to show some people will find any reason to point the finger at the President. This went from talking about apple slices to doging on our Chief and Commander. Get a grip the real reason things like this happen is cause of money hungry people who don't give two cares what happens to the people of our country, but just how much money they can make.

Money hungrey people who don't give two cares what happens to the people of our country.....

Actually I do, more than you will ever know. And what's happening to our country is frightening. This post backed into the conversation, but I'm not sorry it did. This country was founded on an idea of freedom and it is being eroded so badly. I want to see this preserved. Democrats love to demonize the GOP and say they don't care about people. Yet you have a President in place whose policies are crushing the people of this country. Look at unemployment numbers. The GOP doesn't care about women? Obama doesn't care -- unemployment among women is at 14%! I want everyone to have the opportunity to make money -- tons of it if they chose to! I don't begrudge people making lots of money, why should you? Envy? Remember this -- the poor in this country live infinitely better than the poor in any other place on earth! If a rich person goes on vacation, buys a new car, a new home, a new wardrobe -- someone has to provide all those goods & services that go along with it. Travel agents, designers, retail stores, car companies, mechanices...the list goes on & on! That's what fuels this economy! Nothing in this world comes for free, unless you are looking for a govt. handout. But particularly THAT is not free -- it comes at a huge price, and this country hopefully wakes up and realizes what that is in time.

i take no sides with reps and dems, and think the fighting between both extremes on both sides is out countries biggest problem, but can someone who wants no government answer these questions for me.
ideally i believe in little governtment however i believe some people are too dumb or greedy for that to work.
if a child is born with crappy parent who feeds it soda and fast food all day, should that be the parents choice? should this child be born into a life where he is going to be obese and unhealthy because of his parents dont know how to properly feed it?
if i child is born into a poor family and the dad skips out, should everyone turn a blind eye and let the kid go hungry with no clothes? the kid didnt do anything wrong but he has to suffer because he was born into poverty?
what happens when businesses arent monitered? people are greedy and to save some money they bury batteries in fields, hire cheap labor. should we just let them keep polluting or treat workers unfairly?

if people are allowed to eat sh*tty food and smoke cigarettes why cant i do some cocaine if i want to? im only hurting myself . why are some people granted freedom to harm there health with sugar and cigarettes but i am not free to do coke or smoke pot?
if a young women wants to make money and doesnt have a problm with selling her body why cant she? if two consenting adults want to exchange money for a service why cant they?

this is why government needs to interject, people are stupid and greedy and lines have to be drawn somewhere.
if people werrent dumb enough to drink 60 ounces of soda then government wouldnt have to step in

Good points big man. Let's take a look at your first point. Do you think social services does its job well? How many times do we hear about children who were horribly abused who also had social workers coming to their homes routinely. I think people HAVE to be involved especially when it comes to the welfare of children. I think neighbors, friends, family can all get involved and watch for signs. One of the best things I was ever involved in was being a Big Sister -- I think that's a great program. Keep in mind, I am not advocating NO government assistance. The question is how much? We are a big industrialized natiion, we're not Denmark. What works there will never work here. And it's a sad but true fact that in a free republic there will be winners and there will be losers. But I guarantee you the losers will live a lot better here than anywhere else. And what about all the people born into poverty and horrible situations that rose above it, without the governement? I don't trust the government to do it well! I think when people have ownership, a sense of pride & responsibility for something, that's when they thrive, not thru a government handout. It's human nature and to deny that is futile. Just because I don't believe the government is omnipotent, I still want to help my neighbor!

What I am saying is, you have to create incentive. But even if people "sit on their money" they are not hiding it in a shoe box, they are probably investing! That spurs on the economy because investing in companies helps businesses grow. If iI make widgets and it costs 10 cents to make a widget in the U.S vrs. 1 cent in mexico, and all my competitors are making widgets in mexico or china or wherever, I am going to make widgets overseas. I'd go out of business otherwise. I just believe you have to provide incentive, not punish companies for doing what they have to to stay competitive. I will say this, I think big unions are killing this country. I think there was a time when they were needed, but now they have become an arm of the democrat party and do very little actually to help workers. Look, i"m not saying run a sweatshop, but if the federal government gets out of the way a little bit, it frees up entrepeneurs to do what Americans do best -- create and prosper. Not everyone is evil. There are some bad apples, yes, but I think the way successful people in this country are getting demonized is a crime. Joe Biden gives absolutely NOTHING to charity, yet Mitt Romney gives 15-20% of his income to charity, Obama 1% and you never hear that. He's got a ton of money but he certainly doesn't have to give that much.

Dan You're not using that "Teachers cops and firemen could make alot more in the private sector "crap, are you ? If a teacher wants the big bucks ,quit, and become the CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Just remember teacher, if you screw up, you can't blame the parents and customers ,and you can't use demographics as the reason for failure. Ah, but teaching is "a calling " So be a CEO,and be a volunteer after school tutor, or a reading coach ,or a mentor , or work with people who are impisoned. Teach Sunday School,Bible study etc. If you're a cop who wants to be a Captain of Industry, do so , and join an auxilary police force. If you're a fireman who wants the really big bucks ,start your own software company and join a volunteer fire brigade.Dan,the argument has trended upward . Since a veteran cop and teacher can easily make way over $300k- salaries ,longevity pay ,overtime , coaching, mentoring , summer employment , MOONLIGHTING ,we now have to say they could make alot more money at largely fictitious jobs , or jobs they could never qualify for ,or we carefully cherry pick and point to a handful of exceptional people engaged in what are generally not high paying occupations .Teachers come early and stay late ,they go above and beyond, cops and fireman are in danger and under great stress, and they do energy sapping shift work in every kind of weather imaginable .I AGREE. Taking jobs from their employers { moonlighting, ] should be banned , for their sake and ours.

You have no idea how much Mitt gives to Charity because he hasn't released his taxes. The one year he showed he gave 10 percent but by his religion he has to and remember he is a Bishop in the Mormon Church. That isn't the measure anyway. The real question about his taxes was did he take advantage of the amnesty given to the fellons who hid overseas accounts from the Government. What his statement also shows is the myth of the rich paying too much in taxes. He has now said that he paid no less than 13 percent in "Taxes". Why should we believe him? He has shown an ability to flip flop on any core values he may have had at one time. The idea that Bain Capital was an entrepeneurial enterprise is laughable. They were sharks looking for a weak business that they could promise support for and then loot and break all their promises often at tax payer expense. Perry had it right when he called it Vulture Capitalism. These are not people who built a better mousetrap or discovered a better way of doing things. He isn't a Henry Ford. What he did needed no consumer support which is what we are sadly lacking now. Obama is trying to build up that middleclass that provides the consumer support for the ecconomy. The rest of it is just blue smoke and mirrors.

What we need is a leader in the white house to build concensus so we can move forward. Obama has had four years to do that and did not, in fact he divided them and brought them further apart. Obama will go down as the worst president in history, Worse then Bucnahan.

and all of this has to do with recalled apple slices because why??

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